Two pages ago, a mishnah taught about the unique status of a limb or piece of flesh that’s dangling from an animal, but not severed. The status of this flesh is complicated because it is no longer fully part of the animal’s body, but also not fully separated. There are questions about whether it can be eaten and whether it transmits impurity. On today’s daf, a mishnah considers the same scenario, but (morbidly) this time it’s a human body:
The limb and the flesh that were hanging from a person are ritually pure. If the person died, the hanging flesh is ritually pure. The hanging limb imparts impurity as a limb severed from the living and does not impart impurity as a limb from a corpse — this is the statement of Rabbi Meir. And Rabbi Shimon deems the flesh and the limb ritually pure.
The first clause of the mishnah addresses the status of this dangling flesh or limb while a person is still alive. Even though, in the rabbis’ world, there’s no chance of the limb healing and becoming fully reattached, it retains the status of being part of the person’s body. So long as the person is alive, it has no inherent impurity, just like the person to whom it’s attached. The ruling on dangling flesh is even more lenient: Flesh is pure even when totally removed from a living creature, so all the more so this flesh that’s still attached remains pure.
This leads to the second clause of our mishnah, which describes what happens after a person dies. Recall that human corpses convey impurity. Rabbi Meir holds that the dangling limb is likewise impure, but dangling flesh remains pure. He views the dangling flesh or limb as though it were severed immediately before death, and so the flesh is pure like all flesh separated from a living creature, and the limb is impure — not with the impurity of a corpse, but the impurity of ever min hachai, a limb separated from a living creature.
By contrast, Rabbi Shimon thinks the dangling limb remains pure even in death. This is because, for him, it exists in something of a liminal space. The limb doesn’t have the status of ever min hachai because it remained attached to the person throughout their life; but it doesn’t have the status of a corpse, because it’s physically distinct from the rest of the corpse. Because this limb doesn’t fall neatly into either category, Rabbi Shimon holds that it remains pure, despite being attached to a corpse.
While the peshat, the clearest literal reading of the mishnah, may be that Rabbi Shimon views the limb as occupying a liminal space — both attached and detached — the Gemara immediately expresses discomfort with the idea:
Whichever way you look at it, the ruling of Rabbi Shimon is difficult. If death renders a hanging limb fallen off, the limb should impart impurity as a limb severed from the living. And if death does not render a hanging limb fallen off, then the limb should impart impurity as a limb from a corpse.
According to the rabbis of the Gemara, there is no “third status” as Rabbi Shimon seems to believe: Either the limb is considered to have separated while the animal was living, in which case it has the impurity of ever min hachai, or it’s considered still attached to a corpse, in which case it conveys the impurity of a corpse. Ultimately, the Gemara responds by dramatically limiting the scope of Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Shimon’s dispute. Instead of referring to this particular case of a dangling limb, the mishnah is read as a dispute about whether the limb of a corpse needs an olive’s bulk of flesh on it in order to render things impure. Though Rabbi Shimon of the mishnah may have rejected the two “standard” options in determining the status of this dangling limb, the Gemara quickly reinstates them.
This has not been a pleasant discussion, so we may ask why we’re having it at all. Frequently, we view the Gemara’s more bizarre or unsettling scenarios as fictional edge cases designed to stress-test the law. Is this one of those hypotheticals? Perhaps. But it is equally possible that in a violent, premodern world, this was a disturbingly practical discussion.
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