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		<title>by: jspot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More self love</title>
		<link>http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/general/from-the-ga-are-we-too-narcissistic/#comment-651</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Like Jeremy, I&#8217;m fascinated by the debate that Jacob Berkman and Daniel Septimus have started about the possibility that Jews in our 20s and 30s are too narcissistic. In his latest post at Mixed Multitudes, Daniel offers a few more words of explanation: Traditionally, I have been in the camp that was skeptical of UJC, sensing that there was a major generational divide about values, charity, and identity. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Like Jeremy, I&#8217;m fascinated by the debate that Jacob Berkman and Daniel Septimus have started about the possibility that Jews in our 20s and 30s are too narcissistic. In his latest post at Mixed Multitudes, Daniel offers a few more words of explanation: Traditionally, I have been in the camp that was skeptical of UJC, sensing that there was a major generational divide about values, charity, and identity. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: jspot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Playing Fire with Narcissism</title>
		<link>http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/general/from-the-ga-are-we-too-narcissistic/#comment-650</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] But Daniel takes issue with this panel, and takes our friends, and maybe even the entire younger generation to task, in a piece he titles &#8220;Are We Too Narcissistic?&#8221; he writes: Several of these presenters are friends of mine and many of them gave wonderful presentations, but something about the combined efforts irked me. During one of the sessions, I leaned over to a friend and said: “We sound so spoiled.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] But Daniel takes issue with this panel, and takes our friends, and maybe even the entire younger generation to task, in a piece he titles &#8220;Are We Too Narcissistic?&#8221; he writes: Several of these presenters are friends of mine and many of them gave wonderful presentations, but something about the combined efforts irked me. During one of the sessions, I leaned over to a friend and said: “We sound so spoiled.” [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Daniel Septimus</title>
		<link>http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/general/from-the-ga-are-we-too-narcissistic/#comment-649</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A few things: 
1) I'm not convinced that those in their 20s are giving the money they're NOT giving to UJC to other causes.

2) You write: "UJC...will find itself hard-pressed to explain to the next generation of Jews why donating to the UJC, rather than the panoply of charitable organizations that provide direct service rather than donation-brokering" 

I don't think this holds at all. The two hottest causes among young progressive Jews -- AJWS and New Israel Fund -- are also "brokers," not "organizations that provide direct service."

3) There's a reason why Federations became federated and its the same reason businesses merge: sometimes its more efficient when you're doing more things under one roof. 

So sometimes when you give money to Federation MORE of it is going to the cause.

Of course, consolidation could also lead to inappropriate bureaucracy. 

I'm not trying to defend the Federations for everything. But they serve a purpose and if we're going to abandon them, we need to figure out in what ways we're filling the gaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things:<br />
1) I&#8217;m not convinced that those in their 20s are giving the money they&#8217;re NOT giving to UJC to other causes.</p>
<p>2) You write: &#8220;UJC&#8230;will find itself hard-pressed to explain to the next generation of Jews why donating to the UJC, rather than the panoply of charitable organizations that provide direct service rather than donation-brokering&#8221; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this holds at all. The two hottest causes among young progressive Jews &#8212; AJWS and New Israel Fund &#8212; are also &#8220;brokers,&#8221; not &#8220;organizations that provide direct service.&#8221;</p>
<p>3) There&#8217;s a reason why Federations became federated and its the same reason businesses merge: sometimes its more efficient when you&#8217;re doing more things under one roof. </p>
<p>So sometimes when you give money to Federation MORE of it is going to the cause.</p>
<p>Of course, consolidation could also lead to inappropriate bureaucracy. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to defend the Federations for everything. But they serve a purpose and if we&#8217;re going to abandon them, we need to figure out in what ways we&#8217;re filling the gaps.
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		<title>by: rejewvenator</title>
		<link>http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/general/from-the-ga-are-we-too-narcissistic/#comment-648</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Daniel,

C'mon! Yes, everybody has to give charity, but if my capacity is twenty-five dollars and yours is 25 million dollars, why should we expect the UJC's relationships to us be identical?

If the UJC wants to place philanthropy at the center of its business it may do so, but it will find itself hard-pressed to explain to the next generation of Jews why donating to the UJC, rather than the panoply of charitable organizations that provide direct service rather than donation-brokering. Many would claim that this battle has already been lost.

I think that what young Jews are saying is that identity as a Jew does not automatically mean a few dozen things - it can mean passion for only one or two. The UJC is the diametric opposite of that new vision for Jewish identity - it stands for the idea that by paying one organization, you identify with the broader Jewish community and all of its causes. 

Practically, what it means is that for the younger generation, the space between advocacy and charity has shrunk, and people have a deeper connection to their favorite causes, a connection which shapes their own identity. The UJC needs to adapt to the ways in which the younger generation wants to fulfill its Jewish obligations, and it can only do so by engaging in identity work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon! Yes, everybody has to give charity, but if my capacity is twenty-five dollars and yours is 25 million dollars, why should we expect the UJC&#8217;s relationships to us be identical?</p>
<p>If the UJC wants to place philanthropy at the center of its business it may do so, but it will find itself hard-pressed to explain to the next generation of Jews why donating to the UJC, rather than the panoply of charitable organizations that provide direct service rather than donation-brokering. Many would claim that this battle has already been lost.</p>
<p>I think that what young Jews are saying is that identity as a Jew does not automatically mean a few dozen things - it can mean passion for only one or two. The UJC is the diametric opposite of that new vision for Jewish identity - it stands for the idea that by paying one organization, you identify with the broader Jewish community and all of its causes. </p>
<p>Practically, what it means is that for the younger generation, the space between advocacy and charity has shrunk, and people have a deeper connection to their favorite causes, a connection which shapes their own identity. The UJC needs to adapt to the ways in which the younger generation wants to fulfill its Jewish obligations, and it can only do so by engaging in identity work.
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		<title>by: Daniel Septimus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rejewvenator: I respectfully disagree. Certainly, our Jewish tradition does not limit charity to people over the age of 45.

We should all give according to our own capacities.

AND we should be appreciative of those people who provide what we cannot.

I am certainly not saying that UJC has no problems, and certainly not saying that identity-building projects like those me and my peers work on are, fundamentally, narcissistic. 

But we need to be able to critique ourselves, too. And this is an area in which we need to do some introspection. That's the only point I was trying to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rejewvenator: I respectfully disagree. Certainly, our Jewish tradition does not limit charity to people over the age of 45.</p>
<p>We should all give according to our own capacities.</p>
<p>AND we should be appreciative of those people who provide what we cannot.</p>
<p>I am certainly not saying that UJC has no problems, and certainly not saying that identity-building projects like those me and my peers work on are, fundamentally, narcissistic. </p>
<p>But we need to be able to critique ourselves, too. And this is an area in which we need to do some introspection. That&#8217;s the only point I was trying to make.
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		<title>by: scottb</title>
		<link>http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/general/from-the-ga-are-we-too-narcissistic/#comment-639</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am a YL professional in Palm Beach - The below is a post I wrote on the UJC -Listserve for Young Adult Professionals - Thought I would share . 
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott W. Brockman 
Sent: Mon 11/12/2007 9:59 AM
To: YL - PROS
Subject: [yl-pros] Not at the GA? Here's a Virtual discussion. Lets ENGAGE!
 
Dear YL Colleagues- 
 
This week while most of us hold down the fort at work our peers and
superiors will be at the General Assembly being inspired and
reenergized. They will come back telling us about the cutting edge
programming they saw related to Young Adults. They will tell us about
innovative programs created outside the Federation system and how we
need to recreate or co-opt some of these successes into our own
communities.  I am lucky in my community because my leadership already
sees the  challenge  of engagement and is starting to talk in serious
ways how we move forward  in capturing this and the next generation. 
 
We are the "community building business" but at the core of our business
is the practice of philanthropy. So how do we engage, attract and
educate while not forgetting our core business?  Will this issue be
discussed this week at the GA ? I hope so. 
 
We can't continue to just do engagement for engagement sake and hope for
the best. Its our responsibility to go one step further as a Federation
professionals. Our outreach efforts needs to be towards a purpose. We
need plans and a strong strategic vision in each of our communities to
not just cast the wide net but to build personal relationship and
strengthen ties to our system. I strongly believe the central purpose of
any young adult division is to engage and track individuals to  be part
of a "peoplehood" but then to get these individuals to act. Its after
all antithetical to Judaism to learn or to practice ritual, obey (or not
to obey)  laws and not to act. We can't have a healthy system built upon
just the ritual of showing up and attending events. Any visioning done
for our future needs to include a plan for our constituency to be
educated towards acting ethically, compassionately and generously. This
education can be done actively or informally but its best done when the
professional builds real solid relationships. What do I mean by building
relationships? Don't we already do this? 
We here alot of buzz within our system about the collaborative
fundraising model and Federations becoming a "Central Address for Jewish
Philanthropy". My community of Palm Beach is a pioneer with this new
model and has had much early success.  Our entire professional  staff
have been asked to choose a few key individuals of high net worth and
engage them and track our relationships. We have all become  "Donor
Relation Managers".  Its my responsibility to get to know my prospective
donors in this model and connect them with other staff and programs to
build  the donors ties to our Federation. This process can and does
involve everyone in our community from the donors own peers, to our CEO,
to local Rabbis etc. This process does not demand immediate success but
in fact could take years until the donor is ready for a MEGA ASK . In
the interim the annual camping gift can be increased, the  donor may
endow a gift or subsidize a program.  The "mega ask " is the ultimate
goal and borrows its idea from the University model of fundraising. 
With the Collaborative fundraising model  we have a clear vision of
involvement of an entire community towards a simple goal. So lets get
back to my  question. What do I mean about building solid relationships
with young adults? If our goals include engagement with the Jewish
people and a call to action for young adults what  is our "Mega Gift"
and how do we get there?  Is it our responsibility alone as a Young
Adult professional to get there or also the community's ?
 
Lets have our own session virtually and literally outside the GA today
on this list serve. 
 
What are your models for success in bridging outreach to engagement?
 
Do you have a written down plan or do you shoot from the hip? 
 
Is your engagement personality driven or system driven? 
 
What are you local pitfalls? How can we help each other? 
 
How can the system help us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a YL professional in Palm Beach - The below is a post I wrote on the UJC -Listserve for Young Adult Professionals - Thought I would share .<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From: Scott W. Brockman<br />
Sent: Mon 11/12/2007 9:59 AM<br />
To: YL - PROS<br />
Subject: [yl-pros] Not at the GA? Here&#8217;s a Virtual discussion. Lets ENGAGE!</p>
<p>Dear YL Colleagues- </p>
<p>This week while most of us hold down the fort at work our peers and<br />
superiors will be at the General Assembly being inspired and<br />
reenergized. They will come back telling us about the cutting edge<br />
programming they saw related to Young Adults. They will tell us about<br />
innovative programs created outside the Federation system and how we<br />
need to recreate or co-opt some of these successes into our own<br />
communities.  I am lucky in my community because my leadership already<br />
sees the  challenge  of engagement and is starting to talk in serious<br />
ways how we move forward  in capturing this and the next generation. </p>
<p>We are the &#8220;community building business&#8221; but at the core of our business<br />
is the practice of philanthropy. So how do we engage, attract and<br />
educate while not forgetting our core business?  Will this issue be<br />
discussed this week at the GA ? I hope so. </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t continue to just do engagement for engagement sake and hope for<br />
the best. Its our responsibility to go one step further as a Federation<br />
professionals. Our outreach efforts needs to be towards a purpose. We<br />
need plans and a strong strategic vision in each of our communities to<br />
not just cast the wide net but to build personal relationship and<br />
strengthen ties to our system. I strongly believe the central purpose of<br />
any young adult division is to engage and track individuals to  be part<br />
of a &#8220;peoplehood&#8221; but then to get these individuals to act. Its after<br />
all antithetical to Judaism to learn or to practice ritual, obey (or not<br />
to obey)  laws and not to act. We can&#8217;t have a healthy system built upon<br />
just the ritual of showing up and attending events. Any visioning done<br />
for our future needs to include a plan for our constituency to be<br />
educated towards acting ethically, compassionately and generously. This<br />
education can be done actively or informally but its best done when the<br />
professional builds real solid relationships. What do I mean by building<br />
relationships? Don&#8217;t we already do this?<br />
We here alot of buzz within our system about the collaborative<br />
fundraising model and Federations becoming a &#8220;Central Address for Jewish<br />
Philanthropy&#8221;. My community of Palm Beach is a pioneer with this new<br />
model and has had much early success.  Our entire professional  staff<br />
have been asked to choose a few key individuals of high net worth and<br />
engage them and track our relationships. We have all become  &#8220;Donor<br />
Relation Managers&#8221;.  Its my responsibility to get to know my prospective<br />
donors in this model and connect them with other staff and programs to<br />
build  the donors ties to our Federation. This process can and does<br />
involve everyone in our community from the donors own peers, to our CEO,<br />
to local Rabbis etc. This process does not demand immediate success but<br />
in fact could take years until the donor is ready for a MEGA ASK . In<br />
the interim the annual camping gift can be increased, the  donor may<br />
endow a gift or subsidize a program.  The &#8220;mega ask &#8221; is the ultimate<br />
goal and borrows its idea from the University model of fundraising.<br />
With the Collaborative fundraising model  we have a clear vision of<br />
involvement of an entire community towards a simple goal. So lets get<br />
back to my  question. What do I mean about building solid relationships<br />
with young adults? If our goals include engagement with the Jewish<br />
people and a call to action for young adults what  is our &#8220;Mega Gift&#8221;<br />
and how do we get there?  Is it our responsibility alone as a Young<br />
Adult professional to get there or also the community&#8217;s ?</p>
<p>Lets have our own session virtually and literally outside the GA today<br />
on this list serve. </p>
<p>What are your models for success in bridging outreach to engagement?</p>
<p>Do you have a written down plan or do you shoot from the hip? </p>
<p>Is your engagement personality driven or system driven? </p>
<p>What are you local pitfalls? How can we help each other? </p>
<p>How can the system help us?
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		<title>by: rejewvenator</title>
		<link>http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/general/from-the-ga-are-we-too-narcissistic/#comment-638</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Philanthropy is for the old, identity is for the young. People in their 20s don't fund nursing homes and the like, that's for people with money (read: older people).

Sarah may have realized that she wasn't acting so much to help Katrina victims, though surely her efforts were at least somewhat beneficial, as much as she was doing it for herself. But that's the point! The experience becomes part of her identity and shapes her consciousness. She is attuned to the suffering of others and has first-hand knowledge of how bad things can be, and how difficult it is to provide effective relief. Maybe Sarah will ponder this experience and emerge with a powerful new idea for providing disaster relief. Maybe she'll write a book that inspires others to help out. Maybe she'll lead a canned-food drive or blood drive in her community. Maybe she'll just remember what she saw and ten or fifteen or twenty years from now, when she has the means, she will find this cause meaningful and will give generously.

Both you and the UJC seem to fall into the same trap, which is that commitment is measured by donation, and that the UJC is not a cultural institution as much as a service provider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philanthropy is for the old, identity is for the young. People in their 20s don&#8217;t fund nursing homes and the like, that&#8217;s for people with money (read: older people).</p>
<p>Sarah may have realized that she wasn&#8217;t acting so much to help Katrina victims, though surely her efforts were at least somewhat beneficial, as much as she was doing it for herself. But that&#8217;s the point! The experience becomes part of her identity and shapes her consciousness. She is attuned to the suffering of others and has first-hand knowledge of how bad things can be, and how difficult it is to provide effective relief. Maybe Sarah will ponder this experience and emerge with a powerful new idea for providing disaster relief. Maybe she&#8217;ll write a book that inspires others to help out. Maybe she&#8217;ll lead a canned-food drive or blood drive in her community. Maybe she&#8217;ll just remember what she saw and ten or fifteen or twenty years from now, when she has the means, she will find this cause meaningful and will give generously.</p>
<p>Both you and the UJC seem to fall into the same trap, which is that commitment is measured by donation, and that the UJC is not a cultural institution as much as a service provider.
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