Comments on: How Jews Pray http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/ Mixed Multitudes Mon, 23 May 2011 06:56:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: How Jews Pray (video) | Frum Satire | Jewish Comedy http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1759 How Jews Pray (video) | Frum Satire | Jewish Comedy Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:10:48 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1759 [...] compliments of My Jewish Learning [...] [...] compliments of My Jewish Learning [...]

]]> By: Do Ashkenazi and Mizrahi relationships really constitute “interracial” dating? | The Kvetcher http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1755 Do Ashkenazi and Mizrahi relationships really constitute “interracial” dating? | The Kvetcher Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:23:58 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1755 [...] But many Jewish communities had reservations about dating those outside of their specific communities. Certainly many Litvaks once had reservations about dating Gallicianers because they are sometimes low-class and and prone to highly annoying mystical proclivities. But that wasn’t a racial thing. One need only to watch the antics of the neo-Chassidic or Jewish renewal movement to sympathize with our ancestors’ unfortunate prejudice. Of course, I don’t feel that way, but I do see how some could look at it like that if they don’t possess my own enlightenment and education. If these contemporary movements would stop jumping up and down at services and encouraging their members to affect a “spiritual” pose while praying, I think we could move past these unfortunate stereotypes once in for all in the Liberal Jewish world. Of course, it would be harder in the traditional and fundamentalist Jewish world, as it would require that even the Hungarian Chassidim stop stealing from the government and pulling kuntzim, and that is simply not going to happen. [...] [...] But many Jewish communities had reservations about dating those outside of their specific communities. Certainly many Litvaks once had reservations about dating Gallicianers because they are sometimes low-class and and prone to highly annoying mystical proclivities. But that wasn’t a racial thing. One need only to watch the antics of the neo-Chassidic or Jewish renewal movement to sympathize with our ancestors’ unfortunate prejudice. Of course, I don’t feel that way, but I do see how some could look at it like that if they don’t possess my own enlightenment and education. If these contemporary movements would stop jumping up and down at services and encouraging their members to affect a “spiritual” pose while praying, I think we could move past these unfortunate stereotypes once in for all in the Liberal Jewish world. Of course, it would be harder in the traditional and fundamentalist Jewish world, as it would require that even the Hungarian Chassidim stop stealing from the government and pulling kuntzim, and that is simply not going to happen. [...]

]]> By: amadeus482000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1746 amadeus482000 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:50:22 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1746 At any rate, Matthue, kudos to you on dropping what you'd originally written. At any rate, Matthue, kudos to you on dropping what you’d originally written.

]]> By: matthue http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1745 matthue Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:18:09 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1745 You figured me out, dude. Pat Robertson and Jonathan Sacks are the same person, and I'm both of them. You figured me out, dude. Pat Robertson and Jonathan Sacks are the same person, and I’m both of them.

]]> By: amadeus482000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1744 amadeus482000 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:50:27 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1744 Yes, he did-- check what's in the quotes and outside of the quotes. He repeats Sacks' idea and elaborates on it in his own words. Yes, he did– check what’s in the quotes and outside of the quotes. He repeats Sacks’ idea and elaborates on it in his own words.

]]> By: Meredith Kesner Lewis http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1743 Meredith Kesner Lewis Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:08:35 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1743 Just to clarify, Matthue didn't write "We've forgotten what it's like to speak to God." That was Rabbi Jonathan Sacks. I'm all about accuracy. Just to clarify, Matthue didn’t write “We’ve forgotten what it’s like to speak to God.” That was Rabbi Jonathan Sacks. I’m all about accuracy.

]]> By: Jeremy Moses http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1742 Jeremy Moses Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:20:47 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1742 Maybe it's just me (and others are welcome to comment), but sometimes a video is just a video, you know? I think maybe it would have been cool to have one person in the video who doesn't pray, but that's just me being picky. I don't think you can really cover more than what's covered in a 5 minute video. This isn't Roots or anything. PBS hasn't called us...yet... Maybe it’s just me (and others are welcome to comment), but sometimes a video is just a video, you know?

I think maybe it would have been cool to have one person in the video who doesn’t pray, but that’s just me being picky.

I don’t think you can really cover more than what’s covered in a 5 minute video. This isn’t Roots or anything. PBS hasn’t called us…yet…

]]> By: amadeus482000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1741 amadeus482000 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:08:52 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1741 Once again, Matthue: you've written: “we’ve forgotten what it’s like to speak to God.” Who is the “we” you are referring to, and by what means did you arrive at that statement? Once again, Matthue: you’ve written: “we’ve forgotten what it’s like to speak to God.” Who is the “we” you are referring to, and by what means did you arrive at that statement?

]]> By: matthue http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1740 matthue Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:47:49 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1740 Well, that's why we have 8 glorious sections here on MyJewishLearning. If you're not intrigued by points of view other than your own, you're sure to find something else around here. If you're curious about what some Jews eat, for instance, you should definitely check out our film <a href="http://www.myjewishlearning.com/hot_topics/ht/howjewseat.shtml" rel="nofollow">How Jews Eat</a>. (Although, outside the realms of seriousness -- your comment about the 700 Club was totally awesome.) Well, that’s why we have 8 glorious sections here on MyJewishLearning. If you’re not intrigued by points of view other than your own, you’re sure to find something else around here. If you’re curious about what some Jews eat, for instance, you should definitely check out our film How Jews Eat.

(Although, outside the realms of seriousness — your comment about the 700 Club was totally awesome.)

]]> By: amadeus482000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-1739 amadeus482000 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:14:39 +0000 http://www.myjewishlearning.com/blog/daily-life-practice/how-jews-pray/#comment-1739 a) You've missed the point, which is that an assumed standard was set for Jews around the notion of "prayer" itself. I've seen the Christian version of this video, and it's called the 700 Club. b) You've passed over my other point, which is that the article states "we've forgotten what it's like to speak to God." Who is the "we" you are referring to, and by what means did you arrive at that statement? c) It is not incumbent on any Jew to buckdance around the issue of prayer in particular for other Jews to highlight their differences or sameness. For a believer prayer may be private and personal and ultimately between the pray-er and God. And for a non-believer it may not be worth a moment's reckoning. As such, the artificial framing of the conversation is in my opinion out-of-touch and entirely unhelpful. I find it no more useful than asking "How do Jews not eat bacon?" It's meant to be moved forward based on an assumed set of conditions and arguments. I'm sorry, but that's either ignorance or deep cynicism at work. a) You’ve missed the point, which is that an assumed standard was set for Jews around the notion of “prayer” itself. I’ve seen the Christian version of this video, and it’s called the 700 Club.

b) You’ve passed over my other point, which is that the article states “we’ve forgotten what it’s like to speak to God.” Who is the “we” you are referring to, and by what means did you arrive at that statement?

c) It is not incumbent on any Jew to buckdance around the issue of prayer in particular for other Jews to highlight their differences or sameness. For a believer prayer may be private and personal and ultimately between the pray-er and God. And for a non-believer it may not be worth a moment’s reckoning.

As such, the artificial framing of the conversation is in my opinion out-of-touch and entirely unhelpful. I find it no more useful than asking “How do Jews not eat bacon?” It’s meant to be moved forward based on an assumed set of conditions and arguments. I’m sorry, but that’s either ignorance or deep cynicism at work.

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